{"id":85,"date":"2007-05-06T20:14:50","date_gmt":"2007-05-07T01:14:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kevinomara.com\/2007\/05\/06\/way-too-many-photography-words\/"},"modified":"2007-05-06T20:14:50","modified_gmt":"2007-05-07T01:14:50","slug":"way-too-many-photography-words","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.kevinomara.com\/?p=85","title":{"rendered":"Way too many photography words"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><B>WARNING:<\/B> <I>This post may be terribly boring for anyone not interested in photography.  Proceed at your own risk.<\/I><\/p>\n<p><B>EDIT:<\/B> <I>As JTJ pointed out in the comments all my discussion here is not really film vs. digital but instead &#8216;cd production machine at the 1-hour photo place vs. digital&#8217;.  It&#8217;s still valid for me because that&#8217;s exactly how I would and will get film developed (because I am cheap) but it&#8217;s &#8230; yeah, anyway, read his comment for the rest.<\/I><\/p>\n<p>So where to start?  I guess I&#8217;ll start by saying I recently decided to shoot some film.  <A HREF=\"http:\/\/kevinomara.com\/2007\/04\/30\/potpourri-jambalaya-whatever-you-wanna-call-it\/\">As I mentioned<\/A>, Sarah&#8217;s pictures got me thinking about film, and I just happened to be able to steal Trey&#8217;s camera off of Henry.<\/p>\n<p>I was excited about film for three reasons:<br \/>\n1.) This whole concept of reportedly better tonal range<br \/>\n2.) Lack of chromatic abberration (purple fringing)<br \/>\n3.) Full-frame shots as opposed to cropped sensor<\/p>\n<p>Let me take those one by one.  First up, tonal range.  I&#8217;ve heard people mention that they&#8217;ve gone <I>back<\/I> to film because of greater tonal range.  Now I don&#8217;t know nothin&#8217; about nothin&#8217; and can&#8217;t be bothered to read up on it because my eyes start to glaze over on technical specs and everything seems to be infused with a whole ton of personal opinion anyway.  I figured I&#8217;d just look for myself.  The base idea here is that the film has more detail in the darker and lighter areas than the digital.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, chromatic abberration comes in many forms but the one with which I am most concerned is the dreaded purple fringe.  I&#8217;ll let you read the <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Purple_fringing\">Wikipedia article on fringing<\/A> since it has pictures and a better description than I can come up with (better than one up with which I can come?).  Everything I&#8217;ve heard is that film is far less susceptible to this but I wanted to see for myself.  Now my digital camera is pretty nice, it&#8217;s not bad for producing purple fringing, but I do know situations in which I will encounter it and so I try to avoid them.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, full-frame shooting versus cropped sensor.  I will again point you to <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Crop_factor\">the relevant Wikipedia article<\/A> but the oversimplified short version is that the sensor inside my camera is physically smaller than a 35mm piece of film, which means my field of view is reduced and I&#8217;m not seeing the true edges of my lenses.<\/p>\n<p>Before I go into the results let me say this: I am an idiot when it comes to Photoshop and color spaces.  I don&#8217;t really understand what&#8217;s going on with them.<\/p>\n<p>I got my film developed and put straight onto CD.  When I looked at the pictures they were a bit washed out, and I was disappointed.  Then when I took them into Photoshop and did nothing but re-save them the results were a lot better than what I&#8217;d been seeing originally.  So.  I feel that I must have saved them under a different color space, but I don&#8217;t know enough to know what I did.  I&#8217;ll come back to that in a bit.<\/p>\n<p>For reference, I used Fuji 200 film on a Canon EOS Rebel X body.  When taking the comparison shots with my Canon Digital Rebel XT I set the ISO to 200 to match.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to give you this image of the amphitheater at Dogwood Park first:<\/p>\n<p><CENTER><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kevinomara\/487428141\/\" title=\"Photo Sharing\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/200\/487428141_08ae0a0dbc_m.jpg\" width=\"180\" height=\"240\" alt=\"film vs. digital 2\/3\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/CENTER><\/p>\n<p>The top is film, the bottom is digital, both shot with the same Sigma 20mm lens.  First up, tonal range: film wins.  The best example is the sky: where the digital shows nothing but white the film gives some cloud detail.  Though, as said before, I didn&#8217;t see this originally when I looked at the images &#8211; they were washed out.  Photoshop rescued this, and I&#8217;ll have to research how.<\/p>\n<p>Past that there was no noticeable fringing on the film, but also none really on digital.  The crop factor should be obvious as the digital shows far less than the film.<\/p>\n<p>Second example:<\/p>\n<p><CENTER><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kevinomara\/487431669\/\" title=\"Photo Sharing\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/189\/487431669_6e447a80ae_m.jpg\" width=\"180\" height=\"240\" alt=\"film vs. digital 1\/3\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/CENTER><br \/>\nSame layout, top film, bottom digital.  The film is far more contrast-y.  Oddly enough the orange bottle is more vibrant on film, but the red bag looks better on digital.  I have to say that overall the film appeals to me more.<\/p>\n<p>This is the point, though, where I have to say that now that I&#8217;ve seen exactly what my digital camera can do as compared to an equivalent film camera I am <I>not<\/I> ready to abandon it by any means, or start shooting film on a regular basis.  The advantage that film has in initial appearance is seriously outweighed by the convenience of digital in every other aspect.<\/p>\n<p>Third comparison:<\/p>\n<p><CENTER><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kevinomara\/487424601\/\" title=\"Photo Sharing\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/172\/487424601_1131d8dd20_m.jpg\" width=\"180\" height=\"240\" alt=\"film vs. digital 3\/3\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/CENTER><\/p>\n<p>In this I actually prefer the digital.  The film is <I>too<\/I> contrast-y and has a look that I try to avoid when doing digital post-processing.  Initially the film was far too washed out on the skin tones but one quick save in Photoshop and everything has changed.  I&#8217;m <I>really<\/I> going to have to go learn more about color spaces.<\/p>\n<p>At this point I had to abandon my digital camera body because I kept fretting too much about taking pictures with film and &#8220;wasting&#8221; film.  I was shooting more with my digital body instead.  So, I forced myself to give up the familiar and go out and finish some rolls.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a shot directly into the sun on a purple fringe test.  It passed with flying colors:<\/p>\n<p><CENTER><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kevinomara\/487420539\/\" title=\"Photo Sharing\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/190\/487420539_28848a0f5f_m.jpg\" width=\"153\" height=\"240\" alt=\"Shooting into the sun\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/CENTER><\/p>\n<p>A few last things: I bought both Fuji 200 film and Kodak 200 film.  Overall there was very little difference in the films.  I took some comparison shots of <A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kevinomara\/487418433\/\">this car<\/A> and the Kodak came out the winner by the slightest of margins.  In the mid tones and shadows the Fuji has a bit more blue whereas the Kodak puts out a bit more red.  Still, the Fuji was cheaper and the color difference is definitely not worth the price difference.<\/p>\n<p>All of the pictures I shot on film that were worth uploading are here: <A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kevinomara\/sets\/72157600185006067\/\">film set<\/A>.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I noticed with the film that my highs were blown out more often than on digital.  Should I go out shooting film again I need to be more careful with regards to what I meter off of.<\/p>\n<p>Summary: I really like the way the film looks, but this is only <I>after<\/I> I take it into Photoshop and re-save.  So, therefore, it&#8217;s not really any faster to me than taking my digital images into Photoshop and tweaking them ever-so-slightly (or really hard if the situation and my mood warrants).  Therefore I&#8217;m giving (for me, personally) the winning title to digital based on convenience.<\/p>\n<p>Are you still here?  Wake up!  Go outside and take some pictures.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WARNING: This post may be terribly boring for anyone not interested in photography. Proceed at your own risk. EDIT: As JTJ pointed out in the comments all my discussion here is not really film vs. digital but instead &#8216;cd production machine at the 1-hour photo place vs. digital&#8217;. 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